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As this suggests, at the very beginning of the story, Houtarou is spurred to action not out of love for Chitanda or anything, but rather by Chitanda's immense force of personality.
In episode 15, we see that Chitanda has more or less the same effect on Masashi Tohgaito when she's trying to get him to include the Classics Club in the next issue of the wall newspaper. Irisu suggested that she use her feminine wiles, but Chitanda didn't really manage to pull that off.
Houtarou is a pragmatic person In the second half of episode 1, Houtarou has Satoshi help him fabricate the story of the secret club. Because, as he himself notes, if he hadn't, Chitanda would have dragged him off to the music room to investigate the so-called ghost that supposedly appeared there.
In a sense, he chose the better of two bad options. While they wait for the librarian in episode 2, Chitanda becomes curious about why the school history book gets loaned out every day. At first, he tries to get Chitanda to stop pestering him, but soon realizes that refusing her any more would actually be more costly than just acceding to her demands.
Houtarou, being a very pragmatic sort of person, will sometimes do a small amount of work in order to avoid having to do even more work. Chitanda is pretty pushy In episode 2, Chitanda actually grabs Houtarou and drags him to the library to search for the club's archived anthologies, thus justifying his fear in the second half of episode 1 of being forced to go all the way to the music room.
Later in the episode, with the mystery of the frequently-returned book, Chitanda shoves the book in Houtarou's face until he finally gives in. Point here is, Chitanda can be a pushy kind of person. Sometimes, Houtarou just doesn't have anything better to do As his sister notes in her letter from Varanasi, Houtarou should join the Classics Club because if for no other reason he isn't doing anything better with his time.
In episode 3, when Houtarou agrees to help Chitanda out to a certain degree with the matter of her uncle, he thinks back to his sister's letter and figures that indeed, there's not really any good reason for him to say no - as long as it doesn't involve going too far out of his way. In episode 20, when Chitanda invites Houtarou to visit the Arekusu shrine on New Years', he again agrees, mostly because he doesn't have anything better to do.
His thought process is elucidated upon a bit more in the novels, making it clear that this was mostly why he agreed to go. These are more or less the reasons why Houtarou does anything towards the beginning of the show. As Houtarou develops, though, he starts developing other motivations. Moving along, Houtarou asks Eru if Shibazaki is a teacher here. Eru replies that Shibazaki-sensei is the head teacher at this school. She then giggles as Houtarou sighs and asks him if he has always been bad with name.
Oh, shut up, replies Houtarou in a slightly stung tone. That is his motto, and yet he is senselessly wasting energy here on this challenge, which he prompted Eru to give him. He regards this challenge as a very important contest between Eru and himself, it is very much worth the loss of energy.
Eru replies and leans across the table to better hear Houtarou's next words. First they know that Shibazaki-sensei was trying to call a student down to the staff room. Yes, replies Eru, she can see that as well. Houtarou decides to call this student, Student X. Eru gets out of her chair and pushes it back under the table so that she can trot to the other side of the table to see Houtarou write everything down.
On this side of the table, Eru rudely leans over Houtarou's shoulder and looks down at his note, commenting that this feels like a real investigation. Suddenly, the two turns their heads to face each other and at once both blush and look away for they were not expecting to be mere inches away from each other. If Mayaka or Satoshi walked in the club room at this moment, then it wouldn't have been surprising if they mistook the scene to be the two of them kissing. Eru takes a seat in the chair right next to Houtarou, which he suggests because another close shave like this and his heart might implode.
Houtarou clears his throat and resumes the challenge. Here he mentions that Student X can refer to a single student or multiple students. Why do you say that, asks Eru in her usual curious way. Because a student will only get called into the staff room if they have done something bad, replies Houtarou.
He speaks this from experience. Eru's face falls with disappointment; she can't stop herself from asking Houtarou if he is taking this seriously. He replies that he hasn't been this serious ever since high school started. It is very possible that he is more serious now than he has ever been before.
Eru doesn't seem to believe him.
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Basically, he is saying that anyone who did know would be too scared to go. Eru is forced to agree. Whatever Shibazaki-sensei wants, Houtarou comments that it must be urgent. Judging from the way that he said immediately in his announcement, says Eru happily.
But no, that isn't what he meant and explains that the announcement was preformed in the normal manner, which tells them that it was rushed. Eru is lost on what he means by the normal manner. Houtarou tells Eru to imagine that she wants to call him to Classroom 1-A and then he asks her how she would phrase it. Something like this, replies Eru: That's it, asks Houtarou a little disappointedly. He asks Eru to please remember how some other announcements go.
Well, here's how Houtarou would word it: And not just any old rush, says Houtarou, because the announcement was made after school. Eru looks at him with a slightly anger look and asks him not to shortcut his explanations. Shortcut, what a lovely word, thinks Houtarou as he slips away into paradise. Eru grabs him by the shoulder and gently rocks him back and forth while calling his name.
This is enough to snap him back to reality. He coughs and comments how the announcement would be more effective if it were made during school tomorrow morning.
This is because Kamiyama High School has a lot of clubs, but still many students go home after school. But they still made the announcement after school, because the reason behind it occurred after school. In addition to this, whatever the case may be, it is so important that they can't wait until tomorrow to give the announcement. Shibazaki-sensei is betting on Student X is still at school.
Eru looks Houtarou right in the eye and asks him if he thinks that this smells fishy to him, and he answers that it does.
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Next, Eru asks him why they use the phrase, smells fishy, in the first place. He quickly replies that he has no clue, but the way he said it sounds like he isn't going to tell her. Eru took his words to mean that and puffs out her cheeks like a blowfish.
Houtarou's next deduction is that Shibazaki-sensei didn't want to make public whatever it was that Student X has done. However, they don't know if this is only temporary, or if they never want the situation to be made public. Is that because he didn't say why Student X was called out, asks Eru. That too, but it's pretty clear from the that announcement, replies Houtarou as he hands her notebook back over to her.
Eru reads what she wrote down at the start of the challenge, but she then looks back at Houtarou and confesses that she doesn't see what he sees. You're right, comments Eru. It is normally some guy named Morishita-sensei who makes these announcements. Houtarou next asks Eru where the counseling room is located, and she answers that it is on the second floor of the main school building. But, replies Houtarou, Shibazaki-sensei called Student X to the staff room. This means that the problem is major enough that they feel the need to contain the problem to the administrative level.
At least, it could be, thinks Houtarou. Eru looks very worriedly from Houtarou to her notebook and back again several times before saying that if his theory is correct, then Student X is in a very bad situation. He supposes that she is right. Then that means, says Eru, and Houtarou finishes her sentence by adding to it that Student X is involved in a crime.
After a short break, Houtarou leans back in his chair and thinks that all of this is just a game that he is playing with Eru. He realizes that what he says doesn't have to be true. And besides, Houtarou reminds himself, all of this started just to prove to eru that his theories doesn't always have to be correct. Eru interrupts his thoughts and asks him what kind of crime was it.
Houtarou holds up a hand and tells her to wait. First, he says, let's assume that this theory of his is correct. There are no police at this school, so there's a good chance that they have sent over a related official.
Assuming that a crime took place, it must have happened on the 31st of October, as indicated in the announcement. And yet, the announcement was made today, and seemingly in a hurry. Houtarou takes this to mean that the investigators only just now have made the request. But they could also have made the request over the time, comments Eru. That's certainly true, concedes Houtarou, however he mentions that the police would probably want to apprehend Student X immediately.
To do that, they would need to come here in person to make the arrest. So Student X was called just now because he has some connection to the culprit, asks Eru. That is possible, answers Houtarou. During this whole process, Eru went from a very excited and happy individual to one who is seriously worried about Student X.
So much so that Houtarou has to remind her that this is all just a game they are playing. Being reminded that this is just a game seems to have alleviated some of her worries and she relaxes somewhat back into her usual mood.
Houtarou presses onward while Eru's mood is still better. He says that if it weren't for the culprit, then Shibazaki-sensei wouldn't have rushed the announcement. Now, Houtarou asks what crime did Student X commit. He asks for idea from Eru. She ponders the question for a moment and then says that shoplifting is the first thing to come to her mind. Or perhaps the crime was committed in a totally different place, and the investigators learned of someone matching the description at Koubundou, and so based on that testimony, they have come here to the school to follow up on that tip.
Now if that's the case, comments Eru, then the crime could be anything. Houtarou admits in his thoughts that this isn't a bad theory coming from Eru given the short amount of time that she had, but besides theft, none of the other crimes are possible. This he says out loud and Eru asks why. Houtarou responds with simple logic that seems to defy Eru at every turn. The incident happened at Koubundou, so they can assume that Student X appeared to be shopping.
At this point, Houtarou falls back into his mind and muses. He wonders if the announcement was meant for the culprit to come clean, but he feels that, that doesn't make any sense.
Houtarou suddenly announces his theory: The investigators know nothing about Student X, but they believe that Student X will show themselves after the announcement. If it were Houtarou who committed the crime and he heard the announcement just now he will think that the investigators still don't know how he did it and he thinks that he can get away with the crime at this rate, while laughing like an insane witch.
What he would do is not helping the problem. Back to square one, Houtarou wonders under which circumstances Student X will reveal themselves after hearing that announcement. He wonders if it is remorse about the crime, but that option is discarded almost as soon as he thinks it because the human conscious would have done that already.
While Houtarou muses out loud and in his mind, Eru again doesn't look to be in the best condition. Houtarou suddenly looks at his watch and says that for now they should ignore the question of the crime. For now, they will just assume that whatever crime was committed, Student X regretted the crime and apologized for doing it in a letter.
That's just too cut and dry for my tastes, but in these mysteries, you can't bog yourself down with mindless ramblings over a theory that may or may not be correct. Houtarou asks Eru what the date is today, and she answers that it is the 1st of November.
This means that October 31 was yesterday. Now he asks Eru why did Shibazaki-sensei not say yesterday during the announcement and instead said the 31st of October.
Eru strikes this as odd as well and ponders why he would do that. That is because he had something in front of him that said the 31st of October, says Houtarou while answering his own question. Now he asks why the police know that Student X was involved if they know next to nothing about them. Above all, why were they certain that Student X would reveal themselves if they made that announcement. And that is because, states Houtarou, Student X wrote a letter of apology to Koubundou.
The owners would then take the letter to the police, and they in turn took the letter to Kamiyama High School. That explains their certainty that Student X will come forward after the announcement has been made. Eru pleads for Houtarou to wait a moment, everything he is saying is going by too fast for her, she needs to slow down.
She says that according to Houtarou's theory, Student X wanted to apologizes to the owners of Koubundou, but they never wanted the police to be involved. Something like that, yeah, replies Houtarou.